Interview 010 – Jeff Cassman on the Justice System

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Jeff_CassmanToday Jeff Cassman joins us to talk about the absurdity of justice in America. We will discuss his story by detailing his own story as a hedge-fund manager who made a mistake, and found himself targeted by the federal government with vague charges and sent to prison, the uncorrection of the “corrections” system, and God’s grace in his personal struggle to come to grips with it all. Join us for what I believe is a life changing interview. Please keep Jeff and his family in your prayers as they continue to live with the burden of what has happened.

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Episode Notes:

Mail Fraud
Martha Stuart’s case
The Causes of Wrongful Prosecution by Paul Craig Roberts
The US fits the technical definition of an Oligarchy
Police Torture Mentally Disabled Woman
Corruption in Prison
St. Thomas Aquinas on Justice


Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent
The Tyranny of Good Intentions by Paul Craig Roberts
A Government of Wolves: The Emerging American Police State

8 thoughts on “Interview 010 – Jeff Cassman on the Justice System

  1. Konstantin

    That was a shocking interview. I think I’m never going to travel to your country again, chances of ending up in a federal pen are just too high 😉

    I think the high incarceration rates especially among blacksare due to the historically very limited influence of Catholicism on this ethnic group. Just look at the incarceration rates of blacks in the Western United States or the northern Midwest where blacks only make up a small portion of the population. Blacks represent 8% of Nevada’s population but make up 29% of the incarcerated population. South Dakota is only 1% black, but 8% of all prisoners are from this demographic group. You cannot simply explain this by saying blacks don’t receive fair trials. That argument doesn’t take into account the grim reality of violent crime in black communities. As Mr. Cassman pointed out, most people he met in prison were guilty.

    Naturally, I’m an advocate of a large missionary effort among African Americans to make up for the shortcomings of the past, which was not only caused by neglect and racial prejudice, but also by the shortage of priests for Catholics in America over large periods of the 19th and early 20th century. This might seem utopian, but I pray that it will happen someday.

    God bless Mr. Cassman, as St. Paul says “And we know that all things work together for the good to those who love God”.

    1. rubens7 Post author

      There is a second reason. Amongst blacks in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, there was a far lower rate of crime, even than whites by percentage, and in general their culture was very hard working and family oriented, usually surrounding an all black protestant church of some sort. That all changed in the 1950’s and 60’s. Part of that is due to the influence and evangelization of communism on and amongst black people. It was a perfect target due to the history of institutionalized racism against blacks in this country, to play on that and create a victim culture that will always furnish conflict and class warfare. Then the sexual revolution as well. The combination of those influences and the creation of an artificial “black culture” that continues to degenerate, are all problems that have contributed. I would agree of course, that Catholicism and the lack thereof is another important factor. Yet, I grew up near two black kids, who dressed well and spoke well, because their father insisted on proper diction and good dress. They were perhaps baptists. I though black people were indistinguishable from white people until I was taught there was a difference in school. In reality there is no difference, just more souls that need the Faith.

      1. Konstantin

        You’re right on the money, Ryan. I wasn’t sure if I should bring Communism up, but blacks were indeed “evangelized” with Communism, agitated and subsequently dumbed down. Frontpage Mag once had an article entitled “red and black tragedy” that showed how the Soviets systematically targeted blacks for indoctrination. I don’t agree with FP on many issues, but that one was really interesting. I guess it is still unbearable for many older blacks born in the 1930’s to see their grandchildren or great-grandchildren run around with gold teeth, dreadlocks and sagging pants acting like the subjects of the perfect dystopian human experiment. I remember seeing pictures of blacks from the first half of the 20th century and they dressed more neatly than all the Trads I know.

  2. jeffcassman

    You’ve both identified excellent causal factors. I would add to that the high rate of absent fathers, many of whom are themselves in prison. Additionally, you cannot discount the rejection of the legitimacy of governmental authority among this group; for many reasons, some legitimate, a substantial portion of black men believe there is nothing about the government, and thus the laws which flow from government, which should be respected. Real or imagined oppressions are cited as the justification of this. To demonstrate the antipathy towards government, many of the black men in prison refuse to use their “government names”, i.e., the name on their birth certificate, and instead only respond to their “street name”, the one given them by friends or associates.

    Finally, a segment of black culture glorifies the criminal lifestyle. When a low level dealer can make $1,000 a night in cash, he can emulate the lifestyle of the rapper or NBA player with cars, girls, bling, drugs and at the same time “stick it” to the government. This visible example within a community suffering from poverty and ignorance is a powerful recruiting model. “American Gangster” with Denzel Washington is a good example of how this cycle works.

    1. Konstantin

      Thanks for the additional arguments, Mr. Cassman, which I can only second. The problem that we see nowadays is that this “street life subculture” that used to be limited to a very small portion of society has been made accessible to the wider public by rappers and the media for the past two or three decades. Thus, people who don’t even fit the concept of the poor disenfranchised black adopt this way of thinking and living.

  3. khk91

    Athanasius, I only ever heard of your webpage when you said your goodbye, and didn’t give myself time to read it before it vanished. Since then I have read your writings where they showed up (with Boniface at unamsanctamcatholicam) and here, with varying interest, and supported your ambitious project, but with these three last interviews (with Fr. Ripperger, Stephen Hand, and Jeff Cassman) I see that the Anglophone Catholic world on the web lost, and have received again, a great contributor. I hope everything goes well with your Bellarmine translation and imprint so that you become a great contributor off the web as well.

    As for the small portion of the interview that dominates the comments, I am lost at sea. Black Americans are not part of my world, me not being American. Though, what little I have thought of it, I see two contributing factors that apply not only to Black Americans but large portions of second-generation immigrants all over the Western world: one is growing up to believe yourself worthless, helpless to adress your situation, and respond to it only with self-pity, which turns to hatred. Second is the fact that American and today all Western culture is empty and dead, which it discontinuously seems aware of and teaches, but it’s all secular people have, though they may hate it, and especially the ignorant are trapped in it. But Black Americans seemingly want to seperate themselves from American society, which is seen as White society, but they no longer have an identity or culture to segregate to. Thus what happens is an attempt to create a seperate culture and identity, with this secularity and ignorance, from but with a culture and identity that is empty and dead. What is ugly, becomes uglier; what is dead, becomes rotten.

    I look forward to seeing more from you,

    Someone lost on the Baltic Sea

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